phelings
Catweazle's Apprentice
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Post by phelings on May 28, 2018 21:44:54 GMT
We all know the incredible work Network did on The Professionals in presenting 16mm material on Bluray. What had been a dreary washed out grimy looking show since it first appeared in 1978 is now available in a quality so good its difficult to believe it wasn't shot on 35mm. While season 1 of The Sweeney isn't quite up to the same standard it is also excellent. And brings up the question of what about Catweazle? Are the negatives even available? What state are they in? Does the possibility even exist for a restoration? Catweazle on home video and tv repeats has looked pretty much the same as The Professionals always did. Washed out colours, scratched , dirty and dusty prints and very much betraying its origins as a low budget kids show shot on 16mm. Just imagine watching Catweazle again in the same quality as The Professionals. It would be like watching it again for the first time. Does anyone have Network connections who might know if this has ever been discussed and / or whether its possible at all. Perhaps LWT don't even have any film materials anymore and are stuck with just tv broadcast tapes
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Post by Alan Hayes on Jun 7, 2018 12:09:21 GMT
The negs do exist, as I understand it. I think a Blu-ray / HD restoration is actually vitally important for the series to continue to reach new audiences. With TV moving to HD (and beyond), those knackered old video prints are of minimal interest to broadcasters. A swish HD restoration would work wonders on a technical level and open up fresh markets - for a series that in itself is timeless.
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Post by Carol Barnes on Jun 11, 2018 12:16:38 GMT
I understand Network are working on a Catweazle Bluray release.
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Post by Alan Hayes on Mar 12, 2019 23:10:50 GMT
Looks like you're right, Carol. This from Channel Archive's Twitter feed...
Also worth noting it's a second series episode that's being worked on (The Magic Circle), so I suspect this'll be a full series release.
Excellent!
The DVDs are nice, but those prints are very tired looking! Blu-ray will be quite a significant step up. Hope they have good quality soundtracks too...
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Post by Carol Barnes on Mar 13, 2019 20:28:48 GMT
Fingers crossed
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phelings
Catweazle's Apprentice
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Post by phelings on Mar 13, 2019 22:06:48 GMT
This is very exciting news. Day 1 purchase. Maybe my post 1 wish will come true and Catweazle will finally be available in the same quality as the restored Professionals. That would be incredible.
Although as it seems that generally ITV have little interest in getting their movies let alone their tv content onto Bluray you have to wonder what kick started a Catweazle restoration? Seems doubtful that ITV are interested in a Bluray release when they don't even give the UK Blurays of their primetime drama hits. From what I've heard from Network their ITC Bluray releases are largely restored by themselves with little input from ITV so who's footing the bill for this and why?
Having said that I can't wait for this. It would be nice for the set to include a bit more bonus content than before. As nice as the short reunion is I'd love to see a decent interview along the lines of the club dvd.
And Alan - you really need to wake up that Minigiles person on Roobarb who reckons a Catweazle Bluray is "another Network mistake". Not as much of a mistake as his constantly complaining about boycotting Network because he imagined they promised the Goodies Q&A on the Bag of Goodies Limited Edition. Just as they never said any of the content was limited to the Bag they never said the Q&A would be included. They just mentioned the "Audience" as an inclusion. The listing is still there so he only has to look to see he's wrong.
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Post by Alan Hayes on Mar 13, 2019 22:46:06 GMT
This is very exciting news. Day 1 purchase. Maybe my post 1 wish will come true and Catweazle will finally be available in the same quality as the restored Professionals. That would be incredible. I suppose it depends on whether the negatives survive or just prints. AIUI, the film transfers are sometimes if not always done at ITV, with clean up/grading work done at Network's in house facility. That'd be nice but the current Network preference for vanilla releases probably means less bonus content than before, probably none at all. Unless they go for the 'expensive box' option they have gone for with Captain Scarlet and the Mysterons, Joe 90 and Man in a Suitcase. I suppose it depends on how they plan to release Catweazle. I suspect it'll be in a single box rather than following their 'partwork' approach with the ITC series, otherwise there would be Blu-rays already (since the one being transferred is the penultimate episode of Catweazle). It's a bit of an odd comment on his part and he does seem to have it in for Network at the moment. That's his affair and I don't have the energy or the inclination to get into an argument over it all. I enjoy a quiet life these days and want to hang on to it.
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Post by Carol Barnes on Mar 14, 2019 17:15:04 GMT
When you consider just how successful Catweazle has been to Network, it makes sense for them to bring it out on Blu Ray. They know how popular it is and that it would also be a successful venture.
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Post by Alan Hayes on Mar 14, 2019 17:40:50 GMT
Well, it's been a part of their catalogue right from their very early days and VHS. Producing any new version of something people already own must be a gamble, but there is every chance that there will be a significant improvement in pictures and sound and hopefully that's enough to tempt people into buying the new set. I'll certainly be buying as soon as it's put up for pre-order - I'm a big Blu-ray fan and obviously a big Catweazle fan too!
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phelings
Catweazle's Apprentice
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Post by phelings on Sept 6, 2019 22:38:09 GMT
I've not seen anything new to confirm a Catweazle Bluray is on the way. If it is I'll be interested to see if Network try and exploit the obvious Christmas market or whether they'll wait until the actual 50th Anniversary and release it in February
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ian53
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Post by ian53 on Sept 14, 2019 13:00:10 GMT
I was going to do a rewatch of Catweazle but if it is going to be released soon on Blu-ray I'll wait until then
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Post by Alan Hayes on Sept 15, 2019 9:26:03 GMT
Sadly there's no guarantee of Catweazle on Blu-ray, so if you fancied a rewatch, I'd strike while the iron was hot.
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phelings
Catweazle's Apprentice
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Post by phelings on May 9, 2020 17:42:07 GMT
Catweazle has turned up on Britbox but only the first episode which it has in common with other vintage kids new arrivals. I took out a trial hoping this was the HD upgrade we spoke about last year. If it is it must be the laziest upgrade ever. Initial reaction is they are joking. Like everything on Britbox it has an HD notation next to it (most Britbox content is not HD) yet the dirt,dust, muck etc we associate with LWT 16mm of the time is all still there yet the quality of the image behind all that does look better than before as if something has been done. Either way it seems pointless and if they are all like this then no point in a Bluray. Disappointing but I'm confident this isn't the HD upgraded version. Even Anderson shows that have been on Bluray for years are still SD , some even have the Carlton caption from the 20 year old dvd versions. I guess we couldn't really expect anything else from ITV
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phelings
Catweazle's Apprentice
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Post by phelings on Feb 18, 2021 21:00:14 GMT
Couldn't find mention elsewhere on the site so posting here - now that Catweazle is complete on Britbox its worth noting that they are new HD copies but it seems they#ve taken a set of old copies and simply done an HD transfer. Close inspection reveals HD detail but it's all spoilt by the usual problems of dirt, dust, scratches and generally poor quality associated with all LWT film series of the 70's. Oh for a Professionals style restoration. Still, they are better than the dvd's and thanks to a newly released program that allows full quality downloads from the likes of Prime, Netflix, Disney+ etc I've asked the developers to add Britbox as it seems the only way we'll get HD Catweazle without an internet signal. Already got loads of titles in HD that are not on Bluray but are on Disney and Prime so it makes streaming a bit more of interest than I've had before. Network seem to have given up with Bluray for vintage tv so this is the next best option. I won't mention the program name as I suspect it doesn't have the blessing of Hollywood
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Post by Alan Hayes on Feb 19, 2021 11:57:35 GMT
That's excellent news about the series being available in HD on Britbox. I guess this ties in with the photos posted online of an HD transfer of Catweazle being made. Such a pity that it's not even had a rudimentary restoration pass (even an automated one). I live in hope that Network will one day revisit Catweazle for Blu-ray and it'll get the HD transfer it really deserves. But until then, this is a step in the right direction.
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phelings
Catweazle's Apprentice
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Post by phelings on May 4, 2021 21:23:01 GMT
Although the program I was using for downloading material doesn't seem to think Britbox is worth offering I recently spotted that Britbox is now available via Prime Video and can be downloaded that way so I downloaded the entire series. After doing so I did a side by side comparison with the dvd's and was surprised that the dvd's were worse than I remember. The dirt, dust etc shows up very visibly on the HD versions and the reason it doesn't look as bad on the dvd's is because they are so fuzzy. It's like the sharpness has been turned right down. Initially unconvinced that the trade off was worthwhile I can now say that the HD versions are so much better than the dvd's but with plenty of caveats. The important thing is that the detail is there which makes for a much easier viewing experience once you've got over all the muck on the screen that also becomes more visible. Downside is that the fluctuating brightness and contrast could have done with some work too. But as things currently stand its still a step up.
Once downloaded the whole series fits easily on a USB stick in MP4 format for playback on any compatible devices and you even get optional subtitles if you want them and if your device is compatible. My 100mbps broadband downloaded the entire series in around 3 hours.
I've bitten the bullet and created a set of 6 Bluray recordables and even went to the trouble of ripping the series intro, the Brothers in magic and the Anglia clips to add to the Bluray as bonuses. I only have a basic Bluray Creator program but its done the job and I'd recommend long term fans to take the same option in view of there being no official release in sight.
As an aside, it looks like the new 4:3 versions of Thunderbirds on Britbox are brand new restorations that look as good as any of the ITC releases from Network and appear even better than the US Bluray set. Never been a fan of streaming due to the restrictions of how and when you can view but these new programs that allow you to download have opened things up brilliantly. As you can only download material you have a legit subscription to I see them being of much use.
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lazenby
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Post by lazenby on Aug 21, 2021 18:32:27 GMT
I would dearly love to see a Catweazle BluRay - with some care and attention the picture and sound could really sparkle.
There’s been some incredible results with 16mm elements on other British films of the same era in the BFI’s output.
We can but hope Network will at some point see some financial merit in releasing the show in HD. Perhaps as special limited edition set? A day one purchase for me!
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Post by Alan Hayes on Aug 22, 2021 7:36:15 GMT
As I've probably said before, if Network can make money out of niche series like Space Patrol on Blu-ray, then there's always the chance that Catweazle is on their roster for the format. It deserves to be presented in a far better condition/quality than it has been to date...
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phelings
Catweazle's Apprentice
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Post by phelings on Aug 22, 2021 14:39:46 GMT
If the current Britbox versions were thrown through a basic automated cleanup program it would produce reasonable results. It doesn't seem to make much sense that Network would not eventually do a Catweazle Bluray when you consider the obviously less popular content they're bringing out.
And when you look at the amount of esoteric foreign material released by the likes of Eureka and Criterion it's nonsense to suggest there's not enough financial incentives for Network to release Catweazle or The Sweeney. I'm guessing the stumbling block is that Network want to spend on bonus features rather than simply bring out an HD version as a basic bonus free release.
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Post by Alan Hayes on Aug 22, 2021 15:25:12 GMT
I do wonder if the stumbling block is that Network think that most fans are happy with what they've got. (I'm not.)
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